around the duck pond ([info]latin_doll) wrote in [info]cheesemongers,
I'm... not entirely sure about this.

I've spent this last week editing a longish fic to the point where I was quite ready to just throw the damn thing into the abyss that is the trash folder. I proceeded to take a walk. I had an idea, and now I have fic. Fic that is, in fact, the opposite of what I'd been writing before. (Consistence? Ha, no.)

Title: Now, Then

Summary: Mal is haunted. Polly throws things. Angst angst angst. Mal/Polly, Mal/OCs.

Rating: R. I think it's R. The American rating system puzzles me every time, but I'm pretty convinced this is R and not NC-17. Anyway, things happen.

Warnings: Hints at non-con and self-harm. Slash (surprise, surprise). Het (no, really). Infidelity. Strays quite far from canon, but is not actually impossible.



Now, Then

Mal was human once.

She remembers this: a bedroom, the first of many. Hers. She wasn't Mal then, nor Maladicta, just a girl with a mirror and the ability to look good in a dress. She remembers her reflection. Even then, she looked the part, dark hair framing a face that was white with suppressed fear. Where's the difference? asked the pale woman.

Where's the difference?

She remembers looking into the mirror. She was alone in there, and raised a hand to her lips where she'd been kissed just a moment before. The kiss was elsewhere now, lingered on her neck. The girl held her breath; the woman drew blood.

In the mirror, she saw her skin open up, she saw the blood trickle down, bright red against her skin. Mal remembers asking herself what would have happened if she'd said no.

There's no room in her memory for the pain.

Mal remembers how she felt lighter and lighter, how the reflection faded, how the girl blinked and saw the portrait of the Duke on the wall behind her, right where her head had been. She remembers how the girl collapsed into strong arms, received a kiss, a mouthful of blood. She'd struggled a little; she'd been good afterwards.

This happened a hundred and fifty years ago.

The pale woman had liked the struggling, and after the girl had been good for a while, she adopted her and that was the beginning of Maladicta.

Where's the difference?

-

Mal watches Polly a lot, and the difference is here: in the tiny wrinkles around her eyes that are really only there when she laughs. The difference is in one single long scar on her cheek and several others on her body.

"How I wish I could take that from you," is what Mal had said when she'd been holding Polly up on some battlefield or another, when Polly had been bleeding almost too much for Mal to bear. She'd seen Polly's smile, brave and a little uncoordinated.

She still hates herself for saying that, but oh how she wished she could have taken that from Polly. Mal knows pain all right. People have been sticking stakes into her for a longer time than Polly's been alive. Mal envies Polly's scars.

Lately, it's been more swords and less stakes. It's amazing how little difference that makes, pain-wise.

Polly, now, has reached an age where, when faced with the challenge of crossing a dusty guestroom on her way from the washbasin to the bed, she wraps herself into a towel first. Frequently, it's Mal who's waiting there for her, and she shakes her head and calls her granny, because that makes Polly laugh, and her face is so alive then. It breaks Mal's heart.

Mal remembers her own thirty-eighth birthday. It's significant, in a way, because it marks the point where Mal's been a vampire for longer than she's been human. She remembers opening the window to the sunlight for the first time in nineteen years. She doesn't remember being dust for the hours that passed, but she remembers rising to flickering candlelight and to the face of the woman she won't call mother. She remembers being slapped with a hand on which a gash was already healing, the glint in the woman's eyes. Struggling again.

She'd got better with sunlight, after that.

-

There's this about Mal: she'd be a virgin every time, except in all the ways that count. Just as she'd be nineteen all her life. She feels nineteen, sometimes, because nothing afterwards has mattered, except for Polly maybe. Polly, who makes her miss being human so much.

Something that doesn't matter: the man, the vampire, biting her shoulder right now. Blood trickles. Mal gasps, her back pressed hard into a wall, and she grips his arms in a way that would have caused dark bruises on Polly's skin. The man just smiles, with stained teeth. He isn't nice, but she doesn't want nice at this point.

Polly is nice.

He makes a point of ripping the black ribbon off her shirt before the shirt itself falls to the ground. Mal's free to bite now, she bites and draws blood and keeps it in her mouth for a while. She spits, she always does. She's strong enough for that.

She doesn't know his name, doesn't care, just that he's so very different from Polly. She shifts, and he does, too.

There's this about Mal: she'd be a virgin every time.

The man moves, teeth grazing over her lips, and downwards to her neck, biting again, long and deep enough for him to drink. Mal feels lighter and lighter. As long as the wound's open, she's alive, she's human in a way she's almost forgotten.

And inside her head, the reflection fades. It does every time.

-

That happened a day ago, and Mal stands at a washbasin, in front of a mirror again. It's a picture of the Duke she sees in it, a different one now that a hundred and fifty years have passed. Mal scrubs her body with a washcloth, half wishing it were steel wool. The thought is idle, she knows, the kind of cleanliness she seeks she won't find on the surface of her bones. Besides, she'd only heal again.

In the mirror, she sees Polly stepping behind her. She's wearing slippers, it's necessary. Mal isn't, and glass shards press into the soles of her feet. Polly'd thrown a glass at her when she'd told her. Mal had ducked, if only because she'd known Polly'd been counting on that and wouldn't have thrown anything otherwise.

Mal looks at Polly's face in the mirror and wonders if she should tell her the rest of the story. It feels too much like justifying, and Mal knows that somewhere along the lines she's old enough to be responsible for the things she does, always.

"Is it because he's a guy?" asks Polly.

'It's because he's not you', there's the answer, but it's too hurtful, and not entirely precise. Mal settles for, "No," because that's, technically, the truth. "I'm sorry," she adds, still not lying.

She'd been all right for a long time before she met Polly. Polly's the first human to come this close. Mal watches her age and scar with time, and time is kind to Polly, like rain to a plant. Time, to Mal, is a drought.

"Your feet are bleeding," says Polly.

A hand is almost touching Mal's shoulder. In the mirror, it's just Polly raising her hand. It's easier to watch the mirror, because it shows just one half of the problem. It's incredibly hard to watch the mirror, because it shows her just how much she's hurt Polly. Hurts her even now.

Mal turns around, glass shards cracking beneath her soles. She sees Polly wince. She sees her eyes, pupils dilated in the dim light. For one beat of Polly's heart, Mal sees herself in the blackness. Polly looks down, and the reflection is gone.

"I'll heal," says Mal, and maybe it's true.
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[info]ilthit

April 24 2006, 19:29:40 UTC 6 years ago

Wow.

I've always assumed Mal's a born vampire, because of the name; but I suppose it works through adoption as well. This inner world you've painted for her and that inwards-turning handling of the imminence of Polly's human death and her own lack of it is chilling, painful. It's a very different Mal from Amazon's.

Beautifully written. Tell me when you ARE sure about it, so I can snag it for the site. :)

[info]latin_doll

April 25 2006, 15:43:15 UTC 6 years ago

Hey, thanks :)

Yes, actually I think Mal's a born vampire, too, this is just me playing around :) Though now I've got a scene stuck in my head in which Mal is given two pages of middle names and told to memorise those.

Guess I'm reasonably sure about this now, so, permission granted. "Chilling, painful" (wow!) was exactly what I was going for, but, you know, the inner spoilsport that keeps going "damn, this is pretentious and possibly offensive to anyone with a brain"? I think I've got one of those. Er.

[info]ilthit

April 25 2006, 19:13:46 UTC 6 years ago

It's of course possible that even born vampire children have trouble memorising their names.

Nevermind pretentious. Look where pretentious has gotten writers like Martin Amis and Piers Anthony. ...I'm kidding. We loved it, so you must be doing something right.

[info]latin_doll

April 26 2006, 17:25:35 UTC 6 years ago

One of the reasons I like Mal: Polly called herself Oliver and was done, while Mal had to invent two pages of pollysyllabic names and learn them by heart, Talk about dedicated. Or maybe she just bullshitted her way through her signature, figuring that nobody would bother to double-check, I dunno.

Neither Martin Amis nor Piers Anthony ring a bell with me, but I did look them up on Wikipedia :) Anything you can recommend?

[info]ilthit

April 26 2006, 20:16:28 UTC 6 years ago

I'm not sure she had to. If she wasn't worried about being called Maladict, I don't know why she should have changed the rest of her names any more than that. So if her names are Diabolique Fermenta Lucrezia etc, she could just go with Diabolus Ferment Lucrez etc.

In addition to which, yeah, who would check? :D I think her main possible trouble would have been to be recognised by another vampire, if she was on the run; if not, of course, all she had to fool was the humans, who probably don't know vampire society or many of its members by name.

Re: Amis and Anthony: No; they're both too pretentious to bear. :D Well, okay, I read some decent short stories from Amis.

[info]latin_doll

April 26 2006, 21:34:18 UTC 6 years ago

... I didn't even think about this.

(Or maybe she spelled everything backwards. Typical vampire idea of cunning, that one.)

Her immediate reaction to Otto was hiding behind Jade, though, so she *might* have some trouble with vampire society. Could have been just to avoid something like "Maladicta, old friend" from Otto, but I don't think she knew him. (Could have been the iconograph and some fast thinking on her side, but somehow I don't think the idea of a flashlight has reached Borogravia.)

[info]ilthit

April 27 2006, 04:55:58 UTC 6 years ago

Hah! Yeah, backwards... I guess it depends on how bored she was. Maleing the names would be easier; not very cunning, but if she wanted to hide she would have changed her first name too.

Yeah, about that hiding. One could theorise about it. Maybe she was hiding from Otto, but he did see her later anyway - on the other hand she did say she'd heard of iconographs, so maybe she just didn't want to get fried.

[info]latin_doll

April 27 2006, 18:23:58 UTC 6 years ago

I just looked the scene up, and there's no mad jumping behind Jade at all. Mal starts off with aiming crossbows at the door (and *not* at Jade's back), next time her position is mentioned is when she tells the others about the newspaper ("I was standing behind Carborundum at the time"). So the actual jumping might have taken place at any point between Otto's arrival and the flashlight.

I mean, I was theorising she might have hid before Otto started to speak, thus revealing his non-Borogravian accent (so she might have been in slight trouble with Borogravian vampires at large), but it seems like it's the flashlight. Oh well.

[info]ilthit

April 27 2006, 18:35:15 UTC 6 years ago

I looked it up too, and Mal says "Oh, damn," when he sees Otto and the iconograph. So was it "Oh, damn, it's my old buddy Otto" or "Oh, damn, he's got an iconograph box and he's not afraid to use it"?

One of the annoying questions to ask Pratchett if I ever meet him, along with "did Maladict have a ponytail, because you said vampires rarely have short hair?' (a battle already lost on many fronts). And "If dwarves don't usually tell their gender how come everyone called Carrot's girlfriend Minty a she?", and "if Carrot's a dwarf why doesn't he have a beard?" ...

[info]latin_doll

April 28 2006, 20:12:20 UTC 6 years ago

Having read the scene yet *again*, I think it must have been the camera. I mean, there's one moment of spacial confusion here (when Otto says "Can the sergeant move a bit to the right?" or something along those lines), and the rest of the time, noone moves.

(Would she even appear on the photo? I.e., does Otto's camera work with a mirror?)

Also, I don't think the book even mentioned the colour of Mal's hair, let alone the length. And I don'T usually go by the cover illustrations (I mean, I once bought a copy of Good Omens for a friend and Crowley was freakin' green and I think it was either Kidby or Kirby, I'm confused there and it's been a long time and anyway I was quite glad to be rid of that one.

So we're free to write blond!Mal. Crivens.

[info]ilthit

April 28 2006, 22:27:18 UTC 6 years ago

There's also a description of the photo in there. *checks* Well, can't find it. But of course she'd show up - if the imp can see her, the imp can paint her.

I know it didn't. We argue over the semi-canon of the cover and the likelihood of Mal having cut her hair. :D Never underestimate the power of fangirl obsessiveness.

Kirby sucks. Kidby is brilliant. Easy enough to separate.

But I DO hope nobody writes blonde!Mal...

[info]latin_doll

April 28 2006, 23:16:21 UTC 6 years ago

I just remembered Mal is supposed to resemble Otto in... what? Building, colouring, hairstyle, something like that. Now, I can't for the life of me remember if there was a thorough description of Otto anywhere. 'cept for the widow's peak and the clothes. Probably not blond, though.

I dunno, if the imp just peers through a hole, yes. There might be some lenses involved, though, seeing as the imp's a bit unimaginative (or do they listen to "hey there, zoom in!"? Does Otto bother? Does he just order everyone closer?)

[info]ilthit

6 years ago

[info]amazon_syren

April 26 2006, 23:48:12 UTC 6 years ago

I figured she just... made them up as she went along. Listed off half the boys she grew up with, for example, maybe threw in a few masculized names of her own, maybe not. How often was she going to have to sign her (full) name, really? ;-)

[info]amazon_syren

April 26 2006, 00:42:11 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, honey. It's not pretentious. It's fabulous. :-)

[info]amazon_syren

April 25 2006, 03:07:20 UTC 6 years ago

Wow indeed.

I like the way you make her miss her human-ness. The lack of a reflection.
I like the man who drinks from her. I like that she can only bite someone else when the ribbon comes off. (Like Sam Vimes putting down his badge, if you will). I like that she needs someone who/that isn't nice.

I like that Polly's hurt, and that it cuts Mal worse than the glass does to know that she's hurt her like that. I like that she needs to do it anyway, sometimes.

I think this is excellently done. :-)

Brava. :-)

[info]latin_doll

April 25 2006, 15:56:02 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you :)

I just finished Men at Arms yesterday, actually, and I didn't even think of the parallel. This is neat. Well, sorta. It's a bit strange, though, seeing as in this 'verse (don't bring your friends, oneshot!) Mal strives to be human, something which the ribbon is actually a symbol of (What was it she said in MR? "I'm a vampire officially pretending not to be one?" That). She's not the greatest of problem-solvers here, I think.

The mirror thing would get on my nerves greatly, I should think. It's just that and a bit of (well, a lot of) existential angst thrown in.

*has a sudden desire to write fluff fic*

[info]amazon_syren

April 26 2006, 00:31:20 UTC 6 years ago

Mal striving to be human...
Given that in your ficverse, she started out as human, that makes sense.

I never thought of it that way, though. The ribbon, I mean.
A vampire officially pretending not to be one... I don't see the ribbon as being a symbol of hoped-for humanity. I see it as... well, partly as a reminder (a shield, in my ficverse, something similar in yours, I think) of her promises, but also as a... Okay, example from my life: My dad's union went on strike once, ages and ages ago. He was "essential staff" or something, and couldn't actually strike with them. In order to be able to cross the picket lines every morning (and hopefully to avoid having things thrown at him and being called 'scab' and what-not) he wore a button that said "my heart's with you, but my hands are tied" and had a picture of bound hands super-imposed over a broken heart. I see the black ribbon as something like that. Something that will keep the angry mob from turning its anger on you. (Something that 'doesn't cause people to turn you into a short kebab', as it were).

And no. She's not the greatest of problem solvers here.
Hell, in my ficverse (although no-one really knows this yet) Mal ocasionally cuts herself with Polly's old cut-throat razor, just to feel herself bleed. She never foreswore vampire blood, you see. But with Polly, who gags at the though of ingesting raw blood (cooked blood, on the other hand, she could probably handle), however, she can't even have someone drink from her.
Adiction (and this is such in more ways than one) makes you do less-than-intelligent things. This isn't too surprising.
Was it the first time she'd done it?

Re: Oneshot: No, no! Bring your friends! :-D

Re: Fluff: Woohoo! :-D Looking forward to it! :-D

[info]latin_doll

April 26 2006, 17:49:13 UTC 6 years ago

You're right about the ribbon, Pratchett's vampires are probably more pragmatic than Mal in this fic. So 'please go easy on the pitchforks' is probably a convincing motivation behind the temperance movement, I think. A born vampire probably wouldn't feel the need to be human.

Mal did join the army, though, which isn't exactly the same as keeping out of trouble, I think even book!Mal has some sort of interest in humans (apart from their necks, I mean).

Er. Wasn't Polly's old cut-throat razor carefully blunted so it wouldn't hurt a fly? Or wait, maybe that's something she's learned from Jackrum.

I think there's a built-in mechanism that actually makes humans gag when they ingest more than a tiny amount of blood. Don't know where I read that, though, but there seems to be some evolutionary point behind it.

(Cooked blood - I seem to recall some Swedish recipe involving pig's blood. Ngk.)

I don't think it was the first time, but I haven't actually planned that far :)

The oneshot's friends are at this moment carefully shooed away, since I still have to edit monster!oneshot (turned out I don't like it because the entire premise doesn't work. Sigh), and the fluff thing is a sudden strange fancy. I dunno.

[info]amazon_syren

April 26 2006, 23:41:45 UTC 6 years ago

I agree that book!Mal has some sort of interest in humans. I don't know what, though. ;-)

Re: The cut-throat razor.: Yes, she'd carefully blunted it. That doesn't mean it can't be sharpened again, though. (I think Tonker sharpened it, actually).

Re: Gag-reflex: Define "tiny". Also: Blood pudding = british sausage. Blutvurst, same sort of idea. Blood also makes a rich thickener for sauces used on dishes of wild game (See: The Joy of Cooking, believe it or not. :-) And you can get used to ingesting more than a 'tiny' amount of blood. (Thus spake the vampires in "Children of the Night" an ethnography on the vampire community. Very *very* interesting. :-)

Re: Monster!Oneshot: Uh... Not to be nosey... what is the premise, exactly? What about it isn't working? :-)

Fluff? :-) <*Looks Hopeful*> :-)

[info]latin_doll

April 27 2006, 18:51:35 UTC 6 years ago

I tried to look the gag thing up, but Wikipedia seems down and even Google died on me twice and anyway wasn't very helpful and provided me with tons of sites about mosquitoes, and also, vampires. So. I think I've read that nausea is a common reaction to blood ingestion (whereas the gag reflex kicks in if fluid comes near the trochea), but as of this moment I can't cite any sources. No idea what quantities are involved, either.

How could I forget the blutwurst?

Monster!Oneshot. Right. This might be sort of spoilery, but since the issue is addressed right at the beginning... Mal bites Polly.

It was supposed to be an angsty oneshot. Now the damn thing's got 14 chapters and 65.000 words and a *plot* and also, some serious characterisation issues. I mean, I think I've got Mal's motivations so far, but Polly poses a problem. And it's her POV, too.

(And yeah, the inability to deal with vampire!Polly prompted human!Mal.)

[info]amazon_syren

April 28 2006, 13:21:48 UTC 6 years ago

Ye Gods. It's novel! (Nice job. :-)

How is Polly posing problems?
Meaning "why did she accept the offer of vampirism?" Or "why does she still have a fully functioning brain, despite being turned?" (although that doesn't appear to be a problem in your ficverse. In mine, the people who get turned are pets and toys, more than anything else). Or "Why does Polly not hate Mal for turning her?" Or something else?

Heheh. :-)
I think it's one of those laws of narrative causality: If there is a story that contains a vampire in any sort of a romantic situation, there must be some sort of exchange of blood between the vampire and the subject of her/his affection.
I look forward to reading it (when I have a lot of time on my hands). :-)

[info]latin_doll

April 28 2006, 20:33:27 UTC 6 years ago

Turning in my ficverse (oh dear. I seem to have acquired a ficverse) works by biting and then giving something back, i.e., the vampire's own blood (which I seem to have overlooked in this fic here, whoops). It has to be somewhat folkloric, methinks, at least I'm convinced I didn't make that one up. Biting without giving produces the pets, then.

Now, the problem lies in the lack of consent, seeing as Polly was unconscious at the time an account of being badly wounded. So, yeah. Polly's got issues with that, but she ought to have a lot more. And since I like my characters to be at least halfway sane when writing longer stories (otherwise they wouldn't get anything done), I need to rewrite the beginning to at least imply the consent and then change half of the dialogue and quite a bit of what's happening.

And, bwah. It was an innocent little oneshot once. Hooray for time-consuming hobbies.

[info]amazon_syren

April 29 2006, 12:51:26 UTC 6 years ago

Congratulations on aquiring a ficverse. :-)
(They're actually quite helpful, even when/if you start dealing with continuity issues. They mean that the 'rules' stay the same from fic to fic, and help to inspire other fics because suddenly there are events, or character-development points, or-whatever, that need to be explained to the imaginary reader. ;-)

In mine, a turned-baby does, indeed, get given blood 'back'. It's a type of transfusion, if you will, to keep them alive despite the change.
The change itself, however, is wrought by the bite: There are glands in the roof of a vampire's mouth -- small ones that tend to develope around age 100 (another reason why vampire parents give their born-vampire children houses of their own around age 100, I guess). I'm not sure how you get them to work -- because it doesn't happen to everyone who gets bitten -- but they secrete something through the fangs, the same way that a snake secretes venom. So in my 'verse it *is* the bite that does it, it just isn't *every* bite. :-)

Re: Consent... This may be rather more melodramatic (but who's counting ;-) than you wanted but... could she say something ("I can't go yet"?) -- possibly to Death, who Mal can't see at the moment, while apparently delirious, just before passing out? Something that could maybe be easily misinterpreted as "Don't let me die, corporal!" Or something.
Also: If she was unconcious, how did she swallow the blood? She might have choked on it... Herm...

Hooray for time-consuming hobbies: Oh, goodness, yes. :-)

[info]latin_doll

April 29 2006, 14:34:03 UTC 6 years ago

Ah. Seems we merely use different bodily fluids for turning people :)

Re: Consent... This may be rather more melodramatic (but who's counting ;-) than you wanted but... could she say something ("I can't go yet"?) -- possibly to Death, who Mal can't see at the moment, while apparently delirious, just before passing out? Something that could maybe be easily misinterpreted as "Don't let me die, corporal!" Or something.

Colour me impressed. This is *almost* what I was planning to do, only Mal can see Death all right. I mean, he's frequently described by Pratchett as being very much there, only overlooked. Now, Mal has seen him before during coffee withdrawal (and it was intense enough that Polly noticed him as well), plus she expects him to be there anyway. So, the dialogue's a bit more along the lines of "Don't let him get me", which Mal takes more literally than Polly intended at the time, not being at her most eloquent at that moment, so, er, I should just write the damn scene.

Also: If she was unconcious, how did she swallow the blood? She might have choked on it... Herm...

Mal waited until she woke up, I guess. There's got to be some sort of time frame during which this can happen. Or something.

*pokes ficverse*

[info]amazon_syren

April 29 2006, 15:06:02 UTC 6 years ago

Question... Could the pain of being bitten maybe give her a jolt of adrenaline and wake her up?

Oh!! I just realized (ye gods, why did it take me this long):
How the hell does Mal deal with breaking her pledge?
Not one drop.
But she drank from Polly.
How does this work? How does she not turn into a Ravening Fiend From Beyond The Grave when she does it? Have you touched on this? Explained it? Does it have anything to do with remembering Polly's personhood (as opposed to food-hood)?
How does she react to the taste of human (after even just a few years) human blood in her mouth? Particularly the blood of someone she cares about?

And yes. Write the scene, write the scene. :-)

:-)

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